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Rainbow Flag to Replace Confederate Flag on General Lee

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It was announced earlier this week that, following the tragic, race-fueled shooting in South Carolina that left nine human beings dead in a church, the Confederate flag would be removed from a whole lot of stuff, including merchandise sold via Amazon, Walmart, Sears, and eBay. On top of that, Warner Bros. announced that it will be removing the Confederate flag from all General Lee merchandise, the famous Dodge Charger from The Dukes of Hazzard.

And given today’s landmark ruling on marriage equality, it seemed only fitting that the flag on the General Lee would be replaced with this one.

The Confederate flag has been replaced by a rainbow flag on all General Lee merchandise, effective immediately

The Confederate flag has been replaced by a rainbow flag on all General Lee merchandise, effective immediately

Okay, so not really, but it’s funny, eh? As someone who has spent the last quarter of a century watching this nation fight to establish rights for the LGBT community—for me, my husband, and for real living humans with love in their hearts­—today’s Supreme Court ruling in favor of marriage equality in all 50 US states has just got me too excited not to share this awesome photo.

I want to thank all those who have fought for this moment, all those who have challenged unfair traditions, who have given a voice to our plight, who have been mocked, ridiculed, killed for their bravery. I cannot express how grateful I am for your tenacity, your hope, your courage, and your love.

Jesse and Tim

My husband and I are eternally grateful for everyone who fought for this

My husband and I were married in New York last year and have faced a mountain of hurdles here in our home state of Ohio. We even thought that one day, we might have to leave our home, our jobs, and our families just to live in a state that didn’t deny the true status of our love. Now, we can give ourselves roots in this place that we call home, should we choose, without fear of having our marriage be ridiculed instead of recognized. This truly is a wonderful day.

And, because I’m paid to write about cars and not my personal life, here’s a picture of a Kia Sedona.

2016 Kia Sedona

  • Timothy MooreManaging Editor

    Timothy Moore hails from Dayton, Ohio, and tries to bring that Midwestern flavor to his writing. (But as it turns out, no one really likes the Midwestern flavor.) He has been covering the auto industry for years, with several national auto shows under his belt, but he’s been writing about lots of other things (like dragons and Mickey Mouse and cows drowning in milk) since he was just a tot. Outside of the land of cars, Timothy enjoys watching The Office and consuming excessive amounts of peanut butter and beer, and is on the board of an up-and-coming Dayton theatre company called The Playground. And when he’s not on stage (or three jars into a peanut butter binge), Timothy spends time with his mischievous dog, Greyson. See more articles by Timothy.

  • Joann Hollie

    enough of this topic that effects less than 2 % of the population.

    • Joann Hollie

      californication excluded

      • Kyle

        Neither is this one. Also bad.

    • Kyle

      This is not a good comment.

      • Tom Williams

        Gays were on much more solid ground when they said that it was no one’s business what they did behind closed doors. Today they expect everyones approval of their behavior. But, no one is entitled to anyone’s approval.

        • Kyle

          Speaking of not approving, this too is a dumb comment. I’ll agree with you on your last point insofar that I do not have to approve of your dumbness. And I don’t. Because it’s dumb.

          I would argue, however, that gay people are on much more “solid ground” today being that they now stand on equal ground with regards to marriage rights. I’m sure this fact really chaps your ass, but that’s reality. I’m guessing that reality is a place in which you do not feel terribly comfortable residing, but try getting used to it. If you can, or if you just stop saying dumb things, you’d probably come across like 100% less of a dick.

        • Timothy Brian Walling-Moore

          I don’t expect approval…I expect equal rights. There’s a big difference there, Tom.

        • Tom Williams

          Marriage is not a right extended to individuals by the government. It is a restriction on the rights they already have. Laws exist precisely in order to discriminate between different kinds of behavior. Equal protection under the Fourteenth Amendment does not guarantee equal outcome. Granting ” special rights” to a small, select group of people, that’s discrimination, and that’s precisely what the court has done.

        • Madfoot713

          The one thing I disagree with is how the gay lobby wants anti-discrimination rights, but is in favor of getting people like Brendan Eich fired for their personal views. In my view, unless it is illegal to discriminate against anyone for any reason ever, that is special rights, not equal rights. It’s forced acceptance.

          I consider myself gay, or maybe bi, however I don’t like the aspects of LGBT politics that seems to be about getting revenge on homophobes more than equality.

        • Kyle

          Speaking of not approving, this too is a dumb comment. I’ll agree with you on your last point insofar that I do not have to approve of your dumbness. And I don’t. Because it’s dumb.

          I would argue, however, that gay people are on much more “solid ground” today being that they now stand on equal ground with regards to marriage rights. I’m sure this fact really upsets you, but that’s reality. I’m guessing that reality is a place in which you do not feel terribly comfortable residing, but try getting used to it. If you can, or if you just stop saying dumb things, you’d probably come across like 100% less of a douche.

        • Tom Williams

          Marriage is not a right extended to individuals by the government. It is a restriction on the rights they already have. Laws exist precisely in order to discriminate between different kinds of behavior. Equal protection under the Fourteenth Amendment does not guarantee equal outcome. Granting ” special rights” to a small, select group of people, that’s discrimination, and that’s precisely what the court has done

        • Kyle

          So you’re just a *complete* idiot then? Well that’s good to know. Now I know not to treat anything else you say as a valid opinion.

        • Tom Williams

          Ad hominem responses are conformation of ignorance, Scooter. Apparently you are the one sans ” valid opinion”.

        • Kyle

          If your opinion was valid, I would treat it as such. Your ignorance is confirmed by your invalid opinion. Don’t assume your opinion (again, invalid) deserves validation from anyone by treating it as equal to a rational thought. You are not entitled.

        • Tom Williams

          Circular logic much……..ignorance is truly bliss, huh, putz.

        • Kyle

          You don’t seem to understand, so I’ll spell it out for you since you seem to lack comprehension skills: your opinion is wrong. It was proven wrong this week by the highest court in the land. Feel free to peddle your hollow logic all you please, but don’t be surprised when someone calls you out for it.

          Call out as many logical fallacies as you please, because I’m not trying to argue. I’m simply pointing out the fact that you’re an idiot. Because you are. That’s an observation, by the way, not confirmation bias.

        • Madfoot713

          I have heard that a lot of lawyers found Justice Roberts’ dissent more legally compelling than the majority opinion. Justice Roberts is not anti-gay marriage, like the more conservative judges, but he wrote a convincing argument that there is not a constitutional mandate for every state to allow it.

        • Kyle

          So I’m going to reply to your FOUR separate comments here in (relatively) succinct bullet points to avoid having this go sprawling out any more than it already has.

          1. That’s absolutely why people fly the flag. If they legitimately fly it under the auspices of “Southern Pride” but claim not to know any deeper meaning it has, then they’re completely ignorant. If they fly it in spite of knowing full well what the flag represents (and I know what it represents, as does any logical-thinking human being, so please spare the follow-up history lesson for the sake of time), then they’re willfully ignorant and also racist. In either case, if you fly the Stars and Bars in 2015, you can’t be anything but a full-blown racist or a full-blown idiot, which is about the same that you could say for anyone who has ever propped up that flag as anything but a symbol of hatred.

          2. The best revenge is living well, and the best way to gain a measure of revenge on homophobes is to gain equality. That’s why homophobes are wringing their hands and shouting at the clouds this week more than ever before; because they are losing, and now they have no choice but to accept this as fact. For as much as it’s been said, it bears repeating that those so vehemently opposed to rights for LGBT people are no different from those who opposed women’s suffrage and desegregation. History proves them utterly wrong, and the conviction behind their fight is irrelevant simply for how wrong they were. Brendan Eich stepped down, by the way. Mozilla wanted to transition him into a different role in the company, but he felt it was best to step away. Even still, one bigoted programmer doesn’t even begin to hold a candle to the untold number of people who have been forced out of jobs because of their sexuality.

          3. Saying that “marriage discriminates against single people” is the kind of idiot-logic that one would exhibit in saying that parking spots for expectant mothers discriminate against men and non-pregnant women or that delicious peanut butter and jelly sandwiches discriminate against people with peanut allergies. It’s just a mind-bogglingly stupid position. If you’re trying to build the argument that marriage is discrimination, then perhaps people should be lobbying to make sure that *nobody* can get married instead of trying to take the right away from a specific group of people.

          4. I’m glad that some lawyers think that Roberts’ dissent was more legally compelling. These are probably the same people who are now calling the SCOTUS an “activist court” or a “rebel court” or are calling for the heads of the five judges who ruled in favor of marriage equality. That’s the thing about lawyers (and I say this knowing plenty): you can find a dozen who will defend any standpoint you can come up with, and in most cases, the more obviously indefensible the case, the better. Roberts stood on the ground of judicial overreach, which is why his dissent was considerably more refined and grounded in reality than that of Scalia. He also tried to make the argument that the court’s ruling would make the idea of equal marriage rights “more difficult to accept” because it had been won through SCOTUS and not through a pure victory of the people. Far be it for me to interpret the words of the Chief Justice, but this basically reads as Roberts saying that if people had just worked harder and been more patient about dealing with discrimination, they would have gotten their way, but nooo, they had to follow the process of taking a case to the Supreme Court and winning that way. That’s like saying Brown vs. Board of Education wasn’t necessary because desegregation would naturally materialized eventually. He also makes a half-hearted attempt to equate gay rights to polyamory, failing to realize that Brown vs. Buhmanone protects bigamy because it falls in under the 14th Amendment and the Free Exercise Clause. In attempting to suggest that polyamory is morally incorrect, he also undermines that it is somehow an integral aspect of a particular faith group, which flies in the face of the all-popular “religious freedom” argument. Roberts fails to understand that there is at least some intersection between constitutional law and social policy, and protecting a basic right for millions of Americans when millions more conspire against them lies squarely within that intersection, just like other landmark cases.

          Note: I’m giving you considerably more leeway than Tom Williams because having a discussion with you doesn’t appear to be a complete waste of my time. Please keep it that way.

        • Madfoot713

          Marriage does discriminate against single people, for one thing.

        • Michael Brennan

          Again Logical argument name calling. Who is showing Tolerance? Not you Kyle!!

        • Kyle

          There’s no reason to tolerate stupidity. And there’s no reason to call this argument logical.

        • Michael Brennan

          Listen.. The whole point is your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you..

        • Kyle

          Okay. So then if people who are so vehemently opposed to gay marriage want to exercise their freedom to be free from people with whom they disagree, why make it such a point to try and tell those people why they’re wrong? Nobody’s forcing you to comment, nor did anyone force Tom to comment in the first place. Tom didn’t have to attempt to undermine Tim’s article (and, by extension, his happiness) with his idiotic “GAY PEOPLE ARE IMPOSING THEIR BELIEFS ON ME” message. Yet he chose to do so. Accordingly, I called him out for being the idiot he very clearly is. Similarly, you didn’t have to stop in to tell me that I’m not being tolerant of someone’s stupidity (a fact of which I am already keenly aware; I don’t suffer fools well). Inserting yourself here contradicts your whole point, which means you have no point. If you have nothing to say, or if you have nothing of consequence to add, just clam up and move on.

        • Michael Brennan

          It’s amazing when you get presented with a logical argument you call names..

        • Kyle

          To which argument are you referring? Because I’m not seeing much in the way of logical argument in anything Tom said. Just a bunch of blithering.

  • David

    Congratulations! This was a long overdue decision!

  • Madfoot713

    In my opinion, we’ll have equality when the confederate and rainbow flags can be flown openly. Preferably on the same pole.

    • Kyle

      Except that would be idiotic since one flag represents freedom and equality and another represents slavery and oppression. People have been flying the Confederate flag openly for a century, but now they’re sore because people aren’t buying the whole “heritage not hate” argument. Which they shouldn’t, because it’s false.

      • Madfoot713

        Do you think people choose to fly the Confederate flag to support slavery and oppression?